Never Gonna
by SmokeyVW

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	Char said 42 days ago
	Ooh badass deep throated Smokey rap. Cool, I like it. Thank.

	SmokeyVW said 40 days ago
	. thank you

	SmokeyVW said 40 days ago
	. thanks i try to explain the words here further down

SmokeyVW said 40 days ago

. also, i tried to abuse the loops compositionally. around 3:00 a loop enters that just doesn't sound right towards the end of each repeat. i couldn't make it fit nicer, so i used it as an "ugly duckling" - it's to show how "everything's OK" just doesn't ring true. then around 4:00, in a desperate attempt to salvage this with a happy ending (a la David Lynch), the flute loop comes in with a little major tonality to try to counter the unrelenting minor key built up so far. i think it ultimately fails to cheer up this sad tale, so it's a tragic ending.

SmokeyVW said 42 days ago

. glad you liked it. it's built out of seven orchestra loops that i modified to make them play together nice, and they are dropped in and out during the song, leading to the end where they are all up at once. there are six drum loops modified and combined in various ways, again leading to the end where they are all up at once. the vocals were done in one take with spaces between each line, and edited to remove the spaces to form continuous verses. i used the vocal transformer to drop the pitch three half-steps. yeah, i do my best on vocals, but i've got lots to learn there. this was all done in GarageBand thanks!

PrototypeEightyOne said 42 days ago

yo you did a nice job fitting the track together with the loops. Im not familiar with GB, i use reason4 w/cubase4 advanced. are those all GB loops or third party? ide like to retract my statement about the lyrics being amatuer. its not a lyrical track thats for sure but its not intended to be, so you did your part well. I took the time to read ( as suppose to just listen) and the structure is solid. the voice definatly needs work( as does mine! im working on delivery atm). but that will come in time and experience of course. i'll check out some of your other stuff when i get the chance

	SmokeyVW said 40 days ago
	. yes, all GB loops. i think they came from the Remix JamPack and Orchestra JamPack. (maybe also the Rhythm Section JamPack.) mixing and modifying loops is fun, but it lots of experimenting to make it come out reasonably good. give it try!

	SmokeyVW said 40 days ago
	. all i know is that good rap is really hard to do! i tried it once before with Beyond One's Control: That's Progress song 32880 i'm very, very far away from creating something real in this genre. but i'm pleased with how this came out, regardless of what it is style-wise. thanks

SmokeyVW said 40 days ago

. this song is certainly not inner city, mostly because i know little about rap parlance. i was mostly after the rhythm on the backing beat, and the mood. and the vocal is very simple rhythmically since that's all i can handle. i meant no disrespect to true rap - this is just another musical experiment. the "story" is an overlap of many things many people always worry about. this is mostly driven by the current economic turmoil and how it's adversely impacting many people. by using second person (you) i tried to create a strange sense of warning and perhaps even condemnation or accusation. it might also be fear of the future, or perhaps fear for our children's futures (imagine if the lyrics were addressed to a grandchild)... the idea is that lots of things in life can happen to us that we have no control over (like getting sacked), but there can be disasters we bring upon ourselves (signing an unaffordable mortgage), and yet there are still things that we *can* try to change (striving to be personally accountable). maybe it's also dancing around the AA's Serenity Prayer: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. there are references to sobriety, or lack thereof, although maybe that's simply a method of coping. or maybe it's a warning of the pitfall of trying to cope in that way: the coping itself becomes another problem. but AA's prayer need not apply only to alcohol or drug problems. it's a sensible way to direct one's energy into the parts of our lives that we can make real changes. or, i dunno.

	SmokeyVW said 40 days ago
	. glad you like this. there is a huge space of styles to explore... and so little time. thank you

	SmokeyVW said 40 days ago
	. yes, James Bond. i hadn't thought of that, but i think you're right. it must be because it's mostly orchestral thanks!

	SmokeyVW said 39 days ago
	. i'm glad you like it the James Bond thing really was not intentional, it just worked out that way thank you