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Pretty Ones/CBGB
by Vic Holman

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Submitted on: May 01, 2008 - 11:38:28 PM
Last Updated: May 01 2008 - 11:40:40 PM
Description The Vic Vicious Band

Vic Vicious: vocals, guitar
Vinnie Vicious: backup vocals, guitar
Vance Vicious: back up vocals, bass
Vaughn Vicious: guitar
Vermin Vicious: drums
Otto Preminger: feedback guitar
Bob Dorsey: wardrobe designer & consultant

The Vic Vicious Band was known as a non-one hit wonder. They got together two days before a scheduled recording date and practiced this lone track during those two days. They could only afford to put down their tracks in one or two takes.

The band immediately self imploded three minutes after the tracks had been recorded. The original tapes had been misplaced and were recently found among a collection of Howard Cosell's nightclub tapes as a stand up comedian. A disgruntled Vermin Vaughn may have been the one who placed them there, knowing that would be the last place anyone would ever look.
Lyrics Pretty Ones


she laid scratches across the face
she said boy, you better know your place
i think she fears desolation streets

ch:
hey, aren't we the pretty ones
hey, we're swimming on a dime
hey, aren't we the pretty ones
every day just seems the same
i don't really care
my pretty blank stare

woman so weary, she cries of her pain
she cries so much, the clothes are stained
she said she was a high school queen

ch:
hey, aren't we the pretty ones
hey, we're swimming on a dime
hey, aren't we the pretty ones
every day just seems the same
i don't really care
my pretty blank stare

i should relate but i don't seem to understand
i should know love but it just got out of hand
i think it's gone, way too far

ch:
hey, aren't we the pretty ones
hey, we're swimming on a dime
hey, aren't we the pretty ones
every day just seems the same
i don't really care
my pretty blank stare
i don't really care
Hardware Broken or stolen
Software: logic pro 8
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said 251 days ago
Yeah boy!
I think I dated her briefly when I was 17!

Vicious wicked tuneage bro! Has an 80's punkish-feel...Great hook. Cool harmonies. Nice, nice punchy basslines! Yup...I like everything...the whole package ROCKS!

Another classic!

Be well!

said 251 days ago
HAW!
Firsties!!!

Vic Holman said 251 days ago
Mike
did you slip in the back door? didn't see ya get past the bouncer.

um.. maybe we both knew the same girl.

said 251 days ago
Hah!
That's because I AM the bouncer FOOL!

You just might have dated her too. She said she was leaving me for a young guitarist with a nervous twich...

J.A.Stewart said 251 days ago
This is just...
VICIOUS!

Very well done, Vic. You sound completely at home in this piece.

Now could you please explain this one line?...

"i should know love but it just got out of hand..."

Hmmm... LOL. Terrific job. ;)


--- Joe

Vic Holman said 250 days ago
Thanks Joe
now that you mention it that line seems to take on a different meaning. ha.

Vic Vicious is a drifter and now that I think about it this could be about Amy Winehouse.

gail60 said 251 days ago
awesome
You always make the coolest music Vic. Same goes to Vinnie, Vaughn, Vance and Vermin :) Wonderful job here. I think I saw this group in concert. Yeah almost sure of it...Top notch Vicious Vic.

Vic Holman said 250 days ago
in concert
The V.V's played only once on Don Kirshners Rock concert, during the commercial break. They were all eventually arrested for all the stolen equipment.

Except Bob, he brought his own clothes for the band.

biba_nova said 251 days ago
Psychodelically Furry
or even early U2 ish

Nice nice track

:-)

Vic Holman said 250 days ago
furry to Fuzzy
I couldn't decide on all punk or new wave. so I went with a little of both.


Feter said 251 days ago
Mars Needs Ducks
WOW ..this is totaly fit the year 81 ..how can you ?
definetly a classic ..incredible my friend YOU RCOK !!

Vic Holman said 250 days ago
Ducks?
Pretty ducks possibly.

I think that was Rik's song Feter. but that's cool.

Mystified said 251 days ago
So good....
This tune is so together. Very well done!!
Classic! :)

Vic Holman said 250 days ago
Thanks,
the V.V. Band had there act together although very briefly. Rumor has it, they all sell shoes in different states.

Mystified said 250 days ago
different states...
Such as... state of bliss? State of confusion? Hehe.

Let me just say it again--very impressive track!! :)

Vic Holman said 249 days ago
ha ha!
some of that and a deteriorating mental state as well

rsorensen said 251 days ago
hah
great description. Killer song. I love the production on this. That little pre-chorus break is sweet, and the chorus is a bona fide crowd sing-along. Nice job, Vic Vicious.

Vic Holman said 250 days ago
the crowd
i was picturing a bunch of pumping fists in the air ala a bunch of Billy Idol's during the chorus.

Peter Bauckham said 251 days ago
Vic Vicious Rules OK!
Great poster, great sound, great song!

Peter

Vic Holman said 249 days ago
Thanks Peter
Vic Vicious Band knew no rules.... until they got arrested for stealing all the equipment. ironically when the owners got their stuff back they burned it all.

said 251 days ago
Great!
This is really cool, the guitar work is simply amazing (sad not to hear your great acoustic) but all I can say is thanks for sharing such a Classic. Gorgeous work!

Take Care
- Yeman A. Al-Rawi

Vic Holman said 249 days ago
Thanks Yeman
acoustic guitars were rarely, if ever used in punk music. Most of it came and went even before you were born. It was a radical movement back in its day.

five_extra_arms said 251 days ago
Vicious Intent
As your personal wardrobe designer & consultant....LOL! Thanks Vic! See if I send you any more t-shirts!


Great song Vic. Man, you sound tough on this one with your vicious "HEY's" and your chunka-chunka guitar parts. The lyrics are outta hand. It must be that safety pin you're wearing. I think it caught some skin.

Killer tune Mr Vicious (as he makes us call him)

Vic Holman said 249 days ago
Thanks Bob
as your former employer, even though the band never payed you, you were a integral part in keeping the band from being arrest for indecent exposure.

Before, (as you well know) they only had one sock between all of them. And you also know where they wore it.

DWL said 251 days ago
Those verses
are just so 80s.

Brilliant production and excellent lyrics.

In fact I think the Vicious band might have cheated as this is a bit too good!

Cheers

Dick




Vic Holman said 249 days ago
Hey Dick
The V.V. Band practiced hard two days before recording. It's a miracle they held it together for the 3 minutes. Except the singer who sang some of the lyrics wrong and Vermin had to rewrite them after the fact. And Vermin doesn't know how the spell.

MarkHolbrook said 251 days ago
Vic Vicious
ALL THE WAY! I LOVED THAT BAND! When they self imploded I turned to my only last musical interest... teeny bopper tunes and I haven't been right since!

Everyone needs some Vic Vicious in their lives!!!

ROCK ON VIC!!!

Vic Holman said 249 days ago
Thanks Mark!
now a days the band is just a foot note of a foot note in the book " Rock Musics Best Self Help & Imploding Rock Bands"

lavalamp said 251 days ago
Lyrics
Get the band back together. Find Vermin, the best drummer west of the Mississippi.

Great tune Vic.

LL

Vic Holman said 249 days ago
Hey Dave
it might be hard to get them back together. They are all recluses, even though they live in the same house. And Vermin is scheduled to get his back shaved, for the eighth time in one day.

lengold said 251 days ago
Vandalicious
Great, fun track Vic - really enjoyable.
Cheers
Len



Vic Holman said 249 days ago
Thanks Len
Vandalism is what got them here and in trouble all at the same time. If only they knew about monthly payments on equipment they may not of ended in jail and recorded one more song

said 250 days ago
Love..
the main guitar riff! Reminds me a little of the "Romantics".

This is great Vic. Nice job!


C.

Vic Holman said 249 days ago
riff
i went for the simplest guitar solo ever. even though the second guitar is a third, which happened only because the string was way out of tune.

Skean said 250 days ago
Ah a Vic tune
As always my friend love what you're doing and this really ROCKS.
You are awesome... Bravo

Peace, Love & Respect
----
Kenta

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Thanks Kenta
who knows, someday I might do a heavy metal tune

tokai said 250 days ago
Brilliant
very real tune. cool, the bass is boomin and the tune is a rockin..

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Vance Vicious the bass player thanks you
he never gets much comments on his thumping bass.

A big thanks for the listen!

chemystery said 250 days ago
80s
Love that guitar line and how the vocals fly over it. You really captured an eighties vibe here.


Vic Holman said 248 days ago
thanks!
I was thinking of some of the punk bands that still had a bit of a new wave touch to there sound. so this is what came about.

saymme said 250 days ago
( :
*HEY* ! Love Your vocals & great U got together for this..! awesome
ThankYou Vic Vinnie Vance Vaughn Vermin Otto Bob GREAT TO HEAR YOU : ) lena

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Thanks Lena
and the whole cyber Vic Vicious band members thanks you as well.

davisamerica said 250 days ago
vicious
right then vic is vicious anarchy cool

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Thanks Jack
none of the members could hold a day job back in the day. it just fueled their viciousness. well that's the story on the streets.

said 250 days ago
Hey Vic
This is a crowd pleaser for sure, a rowdy crowd that is

When we see you live I expect this song to be squished somewhere in your live playlist, perhaps as an encore, Love it!

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Thanks Tom
playing live. it would be a short set. my voice would go out after the fourth song then the crowd would get unruly

Nick_Flash said 250 days ago
Very Catchy
The synths sound great in this. Gives it that 80's feel. I love the bass line - very groovy.

Great job Vic



Vic Holman said 248 days ago
no synths
it's actually a guitar. I use a volume pedal, distortion, a long stereo delay & reverb. you can really get some cool sounds.

buckhorn said 250 days ago
All your tunes
are well crafted, and well produced. You could through in some stinkers just for variation. Another good one.

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Thanks Matt
oh I've done more then my fair share of stinking tunes. Still can't get the smell out of my other computer

Heroin_Marys said 249 days ago
The Vic Vicious Band
The Vic Vicious Band was known as a non-one hit wonder. They got together two days before a scheduled recording date and practiced this lone track during those two days. They could only afford to put down their tracks in one or two takes.

The band immediately self imploded three minutes after the tracks had been recorded. The original tapes had been misplaced and were recently found among a collection of Howard Cosell's nightclub tapes as a stand up comedian. A disgruntled Vermin Vaughn may have been the one who placed them there, knowing that would be the last place anyone would ever look.


egobandit said 249 days ago
.
.

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
that
about sums it up!

I. Spike said 249 days ago
So damn pretty!
There is no denying the awesomeness of this song!
Vic, you rock!
Hey would you tell Vermin I really liked his furry mammal like drumming?
Thanks!

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Vermin is hairy
and pleased. he is way overdue to have his back shaved. :-)

your punk tune is killer sir pink!

bud said 249 days ago
I wanna see the movie with
the big hair and the skinny ties - Phoebe Cates and Molly Rinwald all pretty in pink. Great track Vic - excellent CB demo.

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
isn't she.....
pretty in pink. Hey Bud. I started thinking of some of the punk bands that also had some new wave style. like generation x and the furs. i think the vocal edged it to the fur side a bit.

this has been a blast

said 249 days ago
I see...
...this is vicious on many levels, hehe! Excellent track Vic!

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Hey Mike
Not only is the V.V. Band vicious but the gal in the lyrics is as well. a tough crowd that ran around with each other.

egobandit said 249 days ago
HOly?!
for a moment I thought I was listening to some famous musician who is using MJ's as a hiding place! Excellent downloaded

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Hey Tim
not hiding. just a duck and cover scenerio.

it was great of you to plant the idea for this whole thing.

gregd said 249 days ago
This is killer production
and the music rocks too.
Nice work. I like the lack of rhymes in the lyrics. It gives the whole delivery an out of step feeling, with the music driving like it does.
Nice,
-g

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Thanks Greg
I wanted to create some tension during the verses to give it a edgy feel, also to counter the chorus.

thanks for the listen!

said 248 days ago
this is
way to good to be mere punk, for sure. loved this song start to finish. your music is great. the nice thing about the internet is the way we can all enjoy these tunes together. even now this song has a kind of retro art-rock resonance. even today it is a viable genre. good music holds up in any time. great job, brother!
Allen

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Thanks Allen
Surprisingly there were quit a few albums back then that were really well done. and some of the bands also injected a bit of the new wave to them as well. that was my springboard.

I agree this place is cool to "not to be restricted to current trends in music"

great tune you pulled off. I couldn't believe you could pull off the vocals so well for the punk sound!

Norman Goodman said 248 days ago
Love the dark changes
Nice union of punk and new wave. During the transition period from disco I always thought New Wave had a more punk vibe than rock. I was just a wee one then.....so what do I know.
Song has a great hook and excellent textures. The variety of sound of the instrumentation is perfect and suits the harmonic layers perfectly.

Sounds pretty solid for a band that only got together 2 days before the gig. What happened to them?
Anybody wind up in jail?
Join Jim & Tammy Fay Bakers ministry?
Become smooth jazz artists?

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Thanks Norman
I've got tons of late seventy and early 80's new wave vinyl albums collecting dust in the basement. some very cool songs happening then.

rumour has it that all the ex band members are shoe salesman. They use to watch Jim and Tammy on TV with the volume off and add there own nasty dialouge.

said 248 days ago
HEY! HEY! HEY!
Killer from the go-line, and it rocks right through a brick wall from there. It sounds deceptively stripped-down, but this one's built for speed! Best opening I've heard in a long time, Vic - excellent treatment, feel and edge.

Vic Holman said 248 days ago
Thanks Rik
Sorry to tell you the V.V. Band ate your ducks. feathers and all. Sorry, but a great song you did.

said 247 days ago
Eating the ducks
...well, I was going to trade them to a Chinese restaurant in exchange for a subway ticket to the Port Authority bus station, but it's a sunny day in NYC, I'll just walk instead.

Even the feathers... wow, that's punk.

Rebsie said 248 days ago
Woah
Fantastic. I can't think of anything intelligent to say about it but I absolutely love it.

Vic Holman said 247 days ago
Thanks Rebsie
personally I threw intelligence out the window years ago. It only got me in trouble.

Really dug your entry, you are a true punk queen!

Rebsie said 246 days ago

*blush* Thank you! That's what a misspent youth has done for me.

michael2 said 247 days ago
cool
this is like something o would have been really into but was pissed they only had 1 import single. did you guys put your single out on Rough Trade? love that thin fuzzy gtr sound.

Vic Holman said 247 days ago
a lot of people got pissed
on the backside of the 45, was 3 minutes of a air condition, no one was pleased.

The V.V. Band did record a faster harder song a year & a half previous to this recording, but it never saw the light of day. time will tell if they can ever re-unite to redo the piece.

jiguma said 247 days ago
"Punk-grunge" maybe
but it's still a VH song :)

If this was what punk was about I might have been more interested when it was around.

Lovely sounds as usual - a top grade mix and the sound is just great. Nice bass sound too.

Neil

Vic Holman said 247 days ago
Hey Neil
I blame it on my fingers.... and the voice.

during those years, when i was in basement bands everyone was finding some cool albums that fused punk & new wave. A lot of good albums went under the radar during that time.

Bob6stringer said 246 days ago
Aw, damn.
Damn! Another bunch of punks stole me gig out from under me. Hell, I couldn'a gotten something done of this quality anyway. Godo energy, Vic. Great vox as well as everything else.

Vic Holman said 246 days ago
Thanks Bob
obviously, it seems that there are a lot more punks hanging out at this site then first rumored. I'm parking my car in the garage.

Macaudion said 246 days ago
Don't know why...
...but, I hate to compare artist here to well known and successful artist, but you do remind me of one that was one of my favorites. I haven't heard from him in awhile and that's, Tom Petty. Appreciation by association doesn't have to be a bad thing, I guess.

I like everything about this but, I especially like your vocals and g'tar one this! Perhaps I should know at least, something, about what this "cb"challenge is all about but, bare naked intelligence has me dign' this enough.

Thanks for the submission, Vic! Dion

Vic Holman said 246 days ago
Thanks Dion
actually you're not the only to think that I'm Tom Petty hanging out here in disguise. But, I would feel very weird if one of my songs appeared on one of his albums. that alternative universe thing can be hairy.

timothy devine said 246 days ago
hey Vic
cool tune.
I love it.
t

Vic Holman said 246 days ago
Hey Tim
ya know, I bet that early seventies strat of yours could still pummel out some hard action. Never to old to rock ya know :-)

Axgrinder said 245 days ago
LOL....
[IMG]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/automanic/screen1.jpg[/IMG]

They just keep getting better and better! very nice work VV. (Vic Vicious) I like it and the pic is funny shat brother......

Vic Holman said 245 days ago
Hey ax
Thanks for the listen!

I'll send you a note about the dummy in a tv spot I did

Scott Carmichael said 245 days ago
perfect Mr Vicious
nailed that 80's vibe... reminds me of "Simple Minds"... OK exuse me while I go moose my hair....

Vic Holman said 243 days ago
the mouse is loose!
ah yeah, those days. a dab of mouse and a hairblower and you are set to meet the ladies. this one, it's kitten's got claws.

guitapick said 243 days ago
For me...
...one of the marks of a great electric guit/amp combo is how it sounds at a lower volume (pots turned down)...yours sounds g-r-e-a-t in this...then you crank 'er up and it's clear sailing, Vic...

Great tune...timeless in my world....

Vic Holman said 239 days ago
Thanks Bob
I'm very careful about distortion levels. I used my Gibson SG on this one. It has a nice cutting drive. and i varied the overdrive levels on each guitar. i also use a pedal board that i can switch between 2 amp setting with a expression pedal.

said 239 days ago
Pretty Ones
It is fantastic and great lyrics. Loved it to bits. Sorry i am late commenting
But I did fav and dowload previous. Thanks.
Peace Dee.

Vic Holman said 238 days ago
Thanks Dee
I really appreciate you giving the tune a listen. It's weird to think that the first punk era was so long ago.

Bob Rodgers said 239 days ago
Wow!
Great song Vic! I really enjoyed this, love the bass and guitars, a great production and this sounds fantastic! Loved it!

Vic Holman said 238 days ago
Thanks Bob
I'm lucky it came together without falling apart. I allowed myself only one or two takes on each track channel. whew!

thoddi said 238 days ago
Ha ha
Vicious description:)

I hope this comment won't implode once I post it...

Very much a Vic Holman signature sound in this. It must be flowing in your vains... Those ignited guitars and the good melodies, catchy refrains, cool voice... great recipe!

Vic Holman said 238 days ago
Thanks Thor
I do have a bucket of water close by just in case of anymore implosions.

Thanks for listen to my punk/new wave side.

said 229 days ago
Pretty One's
You Rock!!

Peace Dee.

Vic Holman said 229 days ago
;-)
Thanks Dee

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