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Phenomenon
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Submitted on: Apr 14, 2008 - 06:34:35 PM
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Keywords strange (25)phenomenon (2)music of the spheres (1)
Description Here's the deal. I was working on a song and when I stopped playback this sound appeared. The song I was working on had no orchestral instruments or electronic instruments - it was only DOD drum loops and real instrument recordings of bass and guitar. I disabled the tracks one by one and still this sound persisted - so then I ran cable from my line out to my usb interface - opened a basic track and pressed record. After seven minutes or so I pressed stop. Here it is. Any idea what happened?
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Skean said 268 days ago
A great phenomena
I have had about same experience but I don't know what it is... I'll just use it in the song I was working on... It was like a big echo from one of the track I played on my keyboard... I'll had played a few notes from the beginning BUT the sound follow through the whole song.

Way too cool it is.
----
Kenta

bud said 268 days ago
Pretty weird eh?
I'd expect you to just work right through it. Thanks for weighing in.

I. Spike said 268 days ago
...ish!
I think you've hit it close to the nose here...
Sounds like other instruments feeding into a synth module and or an effects module that has the decay set to infinite or as much sustain as possible.
Whatever the case may be it sure is groovy.
Very movie soundtrackish.

Feter said 268 days ago
Phenomenon
feelin high ...that mac was feelin high ..I dont blame
it !!

its cool !

bud said 268 days ago
My stash is missing!
Hah!

SmokeyVW said 268 days ago
EVP dude, EVP
Sometimes drums played into an atmospheric synth sounds a little like this. But it goes on and evolves a little too much for me to believe that's all there is to it.

Maybe an Apple programmer put an Easter Egg in GarageBand?

The notes seem to be limited to a reasonable gamut. Too much so to be entirely random...

This sounds soooo familiar. I remember making something like this sometime somewhere in some life.

Too bad about the distortion. It would be perfect otherwise...



SmokeyVW said 268 days ago
pic
that pic: is someone heaving into a rubbish barrel? i remember too much Sloe Gin did that to me once...

bud said 268 days ago
I thought they were looking
for the source of the sound.

MarkHolbrook said 268 days ago
Well its great!
Nano bots recorded this for you! Take credit... It's pretty cool!

bud said 268 days ago
Glad you enjoyed it
I'll feed the nano bots.

pablatone said 268 days ago
so is it in the key of the song
you were doing? I've had mystery noises but nothing that extravagant. It is too bad about the distortion that's a real cool composition, it would be great for a documentary about space or whales.



bud said 268 days ago
Not so sure of the key -
There was no controlling the sound in any way as far as I could tell - the distortion is unfortunate but I think of it as cosmic static.



Vic Holman said 268 days ago
when mistakes go good
Has a neat 2001 space oddessey sound.

This is a wild guess, but possibly infinite delay. Sometimes i create hidden washes in some of my tunes that I have a couple presets on one of my pedal boards that create something along this line. But why your computer did it, who knows.

said 268 days ago
it's something...but I ain't saying what
Play it backwards and see if there is a message from Mona Lisa or Sebastian Cabot Lodge in there. I am thinking you are the happy recipient of an oracle.

Is it possible you inadvertently had an iTunes music stream going? How about Real Audio, QuickTime, etc? Look in "recent files" in those apps.

Sounds like "Hearts of Space" from Sausilito, CA.

said 268 days ago
From Sunday's Hearst of Space program?
Sounds a lot like "La Visita" by Ludovico Einaudi

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011Y9D84/ref=dm_mu_dp_trk12

Last Sunday's HOS program is here:
http://www.hos.com/php/showProgram.php?program=0836

said 268 days ago
From Sunday's "Hearts of Space" program?
Sounds a lot like "La Visita" by Ludovico Einaudi

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011Y9D84/ref=dm_mu_dp_trk12

Last Sunday's HOS program is here:
http://www.hos.com/php/showProgram.php?program=0836

said 268 days ago
your golden stream
You see, Sunday's "Hearts of Space" program was called "Suspension". That perfectly describes your mystery stream.

Of course, I may be utterly and horribly wrong, in which case I will scratch a jagged penny across my teeth.

said 268 days ago
Eyes on the skies...or the prize
OMG, what if I am right? What prize will I receive?

bud said 268 days ago
I checked your H O S theory
I actually thought it was an iTunes interference or podcast - but not so. Check the explanation I just got below.

said 267 days ago
The answer
OK. So now we know how Ludovico Einaudi and other Space Music artists do their stuff. Just wire up infinite feedback loops and step way for an hour.

egobandit said 268 days ago
Cool beans
I have had that happen not this beautiful mine are always dark in nature

magnatone said 268 days ago
Phenomenon
well, I can't explain it bud, but it's pretty cool. I'm going to go with either Mark's nano bot idea, OR Richard's oracle thought. OR - maybe both! The infamous "nano bot oracle" has made itself/himself/herself available to you - can't beat that!

five_extra_arms said 268 days ago
Did You Hit The Yanni Button?
Bizarre!

It sounds like you had your elbow on the keyboard when the aliens transported you through your upstairs window. It was such a pretty light.

Phone home.

gregd said 268 days ago
Yanni button!
That's the funniest damn thing I've heard all week, and the mysterious sound is totally cool. I've had similar short bursts of reverb sound come through when I stop and then start a Logic track. It's like the reverb coding gets stuck in memory and won't clear until the song's time line actually plays out the reverb. I don't understand.
-g

rsorensen said 268 days ago
whoa
dont know what it is, but i like it! distortion and all!

bud said 268 days ago
got this note in my mailbox -
the sound is like someone on the page said- the ambient reverb from various cords stuck together and the source code can not recognize the stoping of the midi control playing the instrument. basically a glitch in garageband that i think is really cool (sometimes, unless you are working on a good track and it throws you off). sometimes it is caused by a band source connection between interfaces. sorry to send anonymous...my accounts kept getting hacked so i stopped signing up. have talked to simon about it already.





said 267 days ago
You are chosen
If your accounts keep getting hacked is that yet not another sign?

bud said 267 days ago
not my accounts
the guy who sent the anonymous note

Karmatoburn said 268 days ago
astonishing
This is something like the beginning on a Yes album. Deep complex and totally cool. Sounds like you have a good thread going on the root cause. I too have experienced this! but my stuck notes are insanely annoying :-)
This is simply incredible.

Nick_Flash said 268 days ago
cool
This sounds like a great background for a song. I can hear the drums and bass now. Quite the gift.

jiguma said 268 days ago
Bud ..
.. if that's who you really are! I suspect that this is the sound of aliens moving in to your computer via your brain and that by listening to it in it's entirity, all of us here have become slaves to the mother craft.

Damn cool piece of alien trickery if you ask me!

;)

Neil

racerat said 268 days ago
it's too beautiful
So why put your head in the trash can over it?

P

The Infinites said 268 days ago
I believe you have...
...experienced the joy of the Infinite Loop!

Reminds me of Philip Glass stuff.

I even liked the distort at 2.55 & 4.15 to the end. Sounds like 'they' are trying to ask for help to save the planet. The 'build' at 6.26 is scary and dramatic. Why do I really like this?

The coolest thing about this is that you actually posted it and made me think about cyber music again.

Let's have a beer and discuss further. Next Wed suit?

Jim

bud said 268 days ago
Yeah - see you Wednesday -
The crazy thing is that it is indeed infinite - I only recorded 7 minutes - but it ran for over an hour and showed no signs of going away. It killed me to actually shut it down by quitting GB. In fact I feel a certain grief mournful loss as I think about it.
Come back Shane!

lengold said 268 days ago
So that's where

the little sod went to - been trying to find him for days.

Cheers
Len

PS: You might as well keep him now.

biba_nova said 267 days ago
It sounds like
a bibanova track to me - in fact cat and i have made a whole series of EVP tracks and this was going to be the next one

i sent it to you as part of a collaboration for EVP series 6

:-)

seriously - i would be very happy to make this into EVP6 if you were willing to let me



bud said 267 days ago
It's all yours -
do you want the aiff? Now I'm really sorry I unplugged her.

biba_nova said 267 days ago
Thanks Bud
I have already done draft #1 of EVP6 while sitting here drining my coffee

:-)

I will try to finish it later today after work

bud said 267 days ago
I've wanted just this thing since I played
with a Buchla synth years ago and maneged to create infinitely evolving tones - but nothing this beautiful. Is there a rig/plugin that can do this? I've been thinking about buying an electronic Tambura that's used to practice sitar and tabla.
here's a link http://www.radelindia.com/User_Products_QuickView.aspx

but I figure there must be a software version somewhere.

Thanks for taking an interest in this track.

gregd said 262 days ago
Soft-synth tambura,
Bud, I think you could get a good tambura sound out of a Frequency Modulator synth, if you played with it to get the over-tones of the root note in the right places. Logic has a good FM synth, but I there must be others out there that cost less than the price of Logic.

Happy hunting,
-g

Cori Ander said 267 days ago
Mysti meets Floyd
Mystified meets Pink Floyd.

Super cool track! Well done. Wish you knew how to do it. I wanna do it too.

Bubowski said 267 days ago
Actually...
quite beautiful! A found (audio) object.

michael2 said 267 days ago
kevin
it's actually quite beautiful. i'm downloading it and will undoubtedly throw it in a song. did you have a lot of delay on something? i've had weird stuff like this happen from time to time, sometimes i don't mind, others I'm tearing my hair out wondering what in the world is going on.

apb said 267 days ago
Wow!

.. I had that happen .. something midi control related .. some duff info getting interpreted as midi .. but never sounded this good .. but then again .. I might not have as good things connected up via midi ..there is panning going on too.. there is moments of distorted passion .. really pretty darn good... nice variations too! :o)

Perhaps there is some Apple code secretly neural netting all music you do .. and 'composing' on the fly...based on your compositions .. dun dun daahhh..:o)

Incredibly new-age, spacey and atmospheric. Heck I couldn't write something this good intentionally.

Kudos to random sw bugs! We can cite this the next time
GB decides to evaporate the last 3 hrs of work etc ..;o)

lavalamp said 267 days ago
Soundtrack
Sell it to a studio. Peter Weir would love this.

LL

Mystified said 267 days ago
how very cool is this?
VERY!!

Love it! I could get lost in this and never return.
Into the cosmos I go...singing....

Macaudion said 267 days ago
...
Hey Bud, I think that this is that Bach or beethoven piece that's being played at some incredibly slow speed and it's supposed to take a few days (or quite a few hours or something like that) to play it in it's entirety. Someone had posted a link to it here quite awhile back.

Gives ya the heeby geebies...

bud said 267 days ago
I checked
and it's not Beet Stretch. I actually posted a link to it this morning int the forum thread about this.

said 267 days ago
Hey now
Well, we can settle that theory by speeding it up. Gimme a few minutes....

said 267 days ago
solved
I sped up Bud's recording by 10 times, using Peak Pro 6. It actually does sound like Beethoven if you listen closely...

http://www.schletty.com/music/MJ41856_Phenomenon_10x_speed.mp3

Composer Clark is right.

said 267 days ago
Dion, too.
And Dion deserves credit, too, for good ears.

bud said 267 days ago
Very cool Richard -
it does sound like Beethoven - but I never downloaded BEET STRETCH - nor do I have any Beethoven in my iTunes at the moment. Is it possible that just because I listened to it last year it resurfaced on my CBGB DEMO punk track? Or - Does the electronic ether of commingling undirected midi files and endless reverb sound like Beethoven?

Reinholt56 said 267 days ago
I think....
It's the musical equivalent of Pi.

Seems obvious to me.

It could be some feedback effect but the variability of the noise tends to negate that.

I'll ask my invisible friend/buddy what they think. Usually if I ask a question they reply but it's always a blank page. Maybe this time it will be different or I might just not notice.

Other than that I'm as baffled as everyone else.

Take care and thanks for allowing us to listen.

Take care.

Paul

bud said 267 days ago
Pi - an infinite number -
and a great movie. That could be it.

My daughter Stella suggests that what we're hearing are "resulting tones" created by the interaction of frequencies creating something similar to harmonics and that the process is entropic and therefore never repeats. In the course of the hour that I listened to there appeared to be no repetition or dominant key. She also said it reminded her of the Sierpinsky Triangle.

The more I listen to it and then listen to the BEET STRETCH piece - the more I'm inclined to believe that it is indeed a random self perpetuating event resulting from some glitch in the GB software and the reverbs and delays I was using on the tracks that were playing before I paused.

DWL said 267 days ago
Varese
your Mac is channelling Varese..........

Far out man :-)

Truly staggering.

This is the start of the next challenge. What can you do with this????????

Cheers

Dick



Youra said 267 days ago
lucky guy
Well looks like you don't need to sweat a lot to create great music. Really sound as a Terry Riley loop. The ghost is REALLY in the machine !

tokai said 267 days ago
kool
music of the gods. interesting story, and outcome.

massa said 267 days ago
spooky!
Veeeery spooky!!! :-)

dajama said 267 days ago
Weird
but very very cool. Someone is trying to tell you something. If only I spoke music...Peace.

MKVX said 267 days ago
I know what it is
But i wont tell you!!!! Before this sound happened, did you happen to change a track plugin or setting as you played it on a keyboard? In garageband and Logic the last notes you play on an a MIDI track will be carried on infinitely if you switch the AU instrument or plugin of that track as you are playing on it. This usually stops if you press play, but it's happened indefinitely till i force quit the app.


BUT........ I would actually like to make this into a song! I love this sound. I'm picturing accompanying sounds already.

Could I do that?

bud said 267 days ago
No - I didn't have a keybpoard attached
I was just listening to my mix and stopped playback. Feel free to use this as you like - a few others are doing the same. Let me know when you post your tune.

SmokeyVW said 267 days ago
Apple did it
you recall how on the Mac one of the voices in System Preferences.. set to Cellos - the tune played by the cellos speeching is "Dovregubbens hall" by Edward Greig

so there is precedent for Apple to hide stuff like this in their software

(BTW i've found lots of goofy stuff in the drum kits in the Remix JamPack)

maybe one of the atmospheric synths plays Beethoven if you hold one certain note for a very long time

stuck notes in a common occurance for me on GarageBand - probably for you too?


SmokeyVW said 267 days ago
.
i used the cellos voice on
http://www.macjams.com/song/32205


Ibstrat said 267 days ago
This
happened to me once.I couldn't figure it out until I noticed that mice had built a nest in the back of my computer and were eating bytes which caused the malfunction.

The Infinites said 266 days ago
Your secret IS OUT!!!
Now we can share the magic...

said 266 days ago
LoL!
How did you sneak a picture in here???

The Infinites said 265 days ago
Copied the HTML code
From Photobucket (Cheers, Bud).

Click on the pic - the link takes you to the user's album. Check out Glasgow's most exciting band of the moment - We Are The Physics.

Jim

davisamerica said 266 days ago
bud
never look a gift from zeus in the mouth .... is the soundtrack for a new "space oddessy" .... amazing where ever it came from

said 266 days ago
Ha ha...PHENOMENAL!
This happened to me back in late 2004 while working on an all loops tune. Only I got what sounded like endless guitar feedback...So I recorded it. Then I spliced the track and used pieces of it in a tune.

I gotta say, this IS trippy.

Be well!

Doadars Uncle said 266 days ago
Neat stuff
Cool! The decay of music...

mvh9591 said 266 days ago
Hum........
They're making contact with you Bud. Awesome - I can't understand what they're saying but it sure sounds good to me.

mvh : )

PS: This would probably sale in a fancy book store in the "New Age" section. (just listen to Ray Lynch this is his style - well, sort of)



ageofthedeathtree said 266 days ago
holy crap...
that's just too weird bud....i have no explanation, but i say you definitely have to use it on something. it's really quite beautiful and haunting! almost sounds like something heightened (joe) would use as a backing track for one of his space pieces. actually, sounds exactly like that. tell him your mac decided you should be part of his mars series...

age
-sons of hypnos

ageofthedeathtree said 266 days ago
holy crap...even more so!
i just finally made it down to rschletty's discovery.....
http://www.schletty.com/music/MJ41856_Phenomenon_10x_speed.mp3

sped up this does wound like beethoven....that's just too damn weird man! i still can't explain it, but this is damn cool! you were definitely contacted by some ancient gods...just smile, sit back, and tell them to compose your next tune....see what happens....heh heh.

age

said 266 days ago
Man
What a recording!

This is the sound of TIME

guitapick said 266 days ago
~
Music of the spheres...no need to question it...what a fantastic visitation...seriously...so happy you caught and harnessed it...many would just have discarded it...fine ear, Kevin...great piece.

guitapick said 266 days ago
Oh...
...and the artwork's to die for...perfect.

Heightened said 266 days ago
I know what happened!
Total sheer unmitigated magic!!!

paul f. page said 265 days ago
Here's my take...
...you channeled Stanley Kubrick and are the final journey to the stars in 2001:A Space Odyssey. Surely you will end up a star child of some sort if you are not one already!
Paul

regulus said 265 days ago
Have you
tried to play it backwards for the decoded message yet?

An other thought, somehow get it to where it can be played for the whales and see what they do.

Try for a repete. Set up the progam as you did that one and see if you get a modified replay.

There're watching you..........

regulus said 265 days ago
I remember,
I like the art also. Very Fitting.

craft said 264 days ago
tricky
THis could feat some outer space movie!! Nice soundscapes. Nicely done

bud said 263 days ago
This is really getting strange
Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to listen, comment and speculate on this tune. I find it very amusing to have it garner this much attention and be in the fan picks - considering that I did nothing but figure out how to record this phenomenon.
I love that the piece has it's own life and continues to surprise and entertain more people.

willnlf said 263 days ago
Aguirre
I can't explain it, but I agree with Vic. It's either Kubrick's essence or Werner Herzog's Aguirre the Wrath of God sailing down the Amazon. You've channeled Klaus Kinski! I'm spooked!

TheSkankBrothers said 263 days ago
41 Fans
Sounds like quite a breeze!

I couldn't resist pushin' this song over the top!

41 fans!!

Hank Skank

composerclark said 262 days ago
Fav'ing frenzy!
Why is everyone fav'ing this track? Who cares, I just fav'ed it too! I think Beethoven is a reasonably talented up-and-comer regardless of the speed one plays his music, and I bet he's going to be really well-known in the next few years.

LydiasDream50 said 261 days ago
Hey!
I saw this Beethoven guy in some Music store, a long time ago.

He was with a couple of weird looking dudes, and going crazy on the keyboards.

Absolutely brilliant. What happened to him?

bud said 261 days ago
Very funny CC
I hope Luddy is enjoying this.

Go_Turtle_Go said 262 days ago
The Dead
Texan, aka Stars of the Lid (Requiem for dying mothers). My all time favourite ambient artist and albums. This piece is just grand. Dissonants that make me feel eerie and still soothing, tranquil (especially when those low distorted strings kick in). A terrific Ambient piece. Well done Keith! The turtle's shell is all soft and flexible, now.

obbster said 262 days ago
weird
ive seen this happen loads of times, but certainly not as melodic as this

Diviner said 259 days ago
Wow
That is brilliant. A self-replicating computer making space ambient music that I would love to make. Thats amazing and very creepy.

Go_Turtle_Go said 252 days ago
i wrote keith...
sheez, sorry kevin..errr. Bud...;-)))

I so dig this masterpiece, a damn fine tear jerking piece of music.
Marc

sloparts said 252 days ago
Very spooky,
but also very beautiful, That's quite a Muse you have there Kevin. What ever it's cause, don't let it get away from you.

You do remember "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" don't you.

Ed

sloparts said 127 days ago
I'm not sure, but I think
this is a midi synth running on some stuck midi notes. I've had this happen before, or something very similar at least with my midi gear recently, and years ago.

How it kept sounding after the tracks were shut off is somewhat more of a mystery. On that, all I can think of was you had the system or a track set to listen on a submix or return line to the mains.

The variations could be part of the particular voice that was playing the stuck midi notes. Yo wouldn't normally hold the notes down this long so they may never have shown up before. Sometimes, at least on my older setups, the only way to shut it off was to actually turn off the offending synth. Now days most DAW's have a send all notes off switch or option to send out on all channels and all midi interfaces.

Just a guess on my part, but I do like the way it sounds, it is very ethereal to be sure.

Great sounds and a happy accident.

Ed

bud said 127 days ago
Thnaks for the feedback
no pun intended. I have no idea how this got entered in the covers challenge - wasn't me.

Char said 95 days ago
So, what was done with
this gift from you know not where? Did anyone play with it, clean it up and make a song? It is mesmerizing. Stanley Kubrick and Carl Sagan were trying to send a message that there are more things that are beyond our experience or imagination and that a tiny push can build to monumental force..or not.
I had to listen to it a couple times. Wow!

bud said 94 days ago
Far as I know
nothing was done with this. It just is. Pretty crazy - huh? Thanks for stopping by.

Char said 40 days ago
I had to get my
phenomenon fix. :)

WildlifeAnalysis said 40 days ago
What?!
Holy crap Bud, we were thinking the same thing - Char just sent me a link to this song.

Check this one out:
http://www.macjams.com/song/48096

Great minds think alike?

Char said 37 days ago
The mind
is a terrible thing. :)

Char said 37 days ago
Hi, again...
Have you considered a reading of a poem over this, or children explaining what they think God is or the sounds of children laughing? I am addicted to this. Perhaps, a guided meditation... I so wish you'd find a use for this.
Well, It is putting me in a mellow state of mind, right now. It is a gift, as well as a phenomenon. Thanks! :)

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thanksJOAN (collab)
Thanks Ego (collab)
Thanks
budrock collab w/egobandit
Unstringable Cred Band
d r i f t
Tectonica
Jet Blue w/ Ginsberg
Jet Blue
phat phunk w/WB
John's Weird One
YMO
Is My Engine w/Kevlar
Cult of the Body w/Kevlar
Slanter Vox 2 w/smokeyvw
Rock to Fakey
8.3.06 STW
Boy in Blue
Stranger Things - Live
Slanter
Stranger Things
When Is?
Periscope Graves