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Piano quintet III - Divase
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Submitted on: Oct 28, 2007 - 05:38:10 AM
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Description Third and final movement of my Piano quintet which comes after Piano quintet I - Chives and Piano quintet II - Thades

I guess it's a very loose form of variations, with hints of Jazz Salsa Tango and the Blues.

It might need some more work. The opening section is repeated at the end without any modulation, only minute changes. I like it, but after a few listens, I'm having some doubts, it might need to be in a different key, or something. Also, as always, I having trouble finishing the piece.

Like "Chives" this uses in parts the technique of striking the string with the wood of the bow which I hope is not impossibly difficult rhythmically, or destructive to the instrument.

I am in the process of scoring all three movements, and will only know for sure whether they are actually playable or not when I’m finished.

Hardware Yamaha keyboard

Software: East West Orchestral Gold Pro

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	apb said 439 days ago
	Man .. ..this is awesome. I could here the jazz and blues influences, more so around half-way .. very dramatic and fresh in the more classical parts. Just brilliant, sir. Now, go break some instruments!! Pity I can't find a link to "Ballistic Bob" from 'Chewing the Fat' on youtube .. I get a feeling from this piece you would have enjoyed that character.

	cchaplin said 438 days ago
	Balistic Bob ? You've got me all intrigued. I'm off to search You Tube ! Thanks for listening. P.S. It would be nice to bring in a bit more Rock and Roll, and maybe have a string players smash their violins, etc. at the end of the piece - Lol!

	Ibstrat said 438 days ago
	Honestly I think this is one of the best things I have heard on macjams.I don't think it needs to be changed.I can hear Piazolla,Gershwin, Ravel,but you have your own style.I love this piece.Was there any improv involved or was it all written out?

	guitapick said 438 days ago
	I must ask: You're telling us that these are electronically produced instruments? That almost blows me away as much as this piece......almost.... Love the bass...just keeps things rolling along, there...

	peacepiano said 432 days ago
	Project Love the whole project. The realistic string voices are amazing. This is the "jazziest" of the three, and the easiest to understand. But all three are a joy. Thanks Bill

	musichead said 432 days ago
	sunday morning listen I heard more than one style in this piece. I really like the violin. Ive aways been a fan of Jazz violin!! Very neat timing. And wow the strings and Orchesrta sound so real! Id like to hear more of this,and I will.

	Feter said 431 days ago
	Piano quintet III - Divase this is very sweet and melodic . there s a great charm on this .and I think its the best piece from all the Suite .again the sound of the ensemble so realistic .welldone !!

	atonalis said 422 days ago
	simply perfect. and i mean that in the most pure sense of the word...... the tonal content is wonderful....... i like the key...... do you see colors or get diff emotions from diff keys? i do. C is nice..... don't change it..... IMHO. wonderful musician you are..... a fan of Shostokovich and Bartok?

cchaplin said 421 days ago

C is so nice and easy,
You know, I pretty much decide whether to work with all the white notes, or all the black notes when I start on a piece, and then constantly struggle against being stuck in C, or in the pentatonic scale.

I envy people who can see different colours, and hear different moods relating to a chosen key. You must have perfect pitch, which I definitely don't have, even though I've tried to acquire it (there actually is a course on attaining perfect pitch - and I've got the Cds !).

I could sum up my way of working as having to constantly battle against being drawn and seduced by familiarity. Tonality is such a magnet !

Thanks for your comment, and I'm thrilled you liked the piece, and, yes, I love Bartok.

	Enrique Gil said 413 days ago
	Amazing! Original and interesting music. I did not know you could find strings software that sound like real instruments. Wonderful!

	Doadars Uncle said 394 days ago
	Wow This is exciting stuff! Tooooo cool! Great rhythms and blend of genre! Doug

	said 331 days ago
	Liking... the dense polychords, jazz inflections and instrumentation. Very nice work! Mature musicianship is in evidence here!

composerclark said 270 days ago

Original
I like the unconventional harmonic language; very rooted in tonality, but you manage to make it sound fresh, That is a major achievement.

There is lots of rhythmic interest too; some unexpected shifts. This also really helps keep my interest... what's he going to do next? Never predictable.

I also really like the stylistic pastiche. This is something I like to explore and play with in my own music.

The 'col legno battute' stuff -- hitting the string with the wooden part of the bow -- does not strike me as being difficult at all. The resistance I have encountered from players with regards to this technique is that it can damage the finish of the bow, which is an understandable concern for them, since a good bow can cost $100,000! However, that's no reason not to write it into the music. Sometimes they'll bring an old bow to use for sections that ask for this technique, and sometimes they tap with the hard ivory plate at the tip of the bow, which produces more or less the same sound.

A couple of suggestions, or things to think about:

The piano writing seems kind of tame... traditionally, the piano in a piano quintet is pretty meaty and virtuosic. No reason why it should be that way here, of course, but it was just something that I noticed.

It is very sectional, almost like mini-movements within the larger movement. The more usual way of composing longer movements in classical music has been to develop the thematic material, and to have transitions, both of which tend to be harmonically and melodically unstable, leading to more stable thematic sections. Whether this is a good idea or not is of course up to you, but it may be worth considering for your next piece.

Overall, I really like this. Yours is an original voice, and I strongly encourage you to keep composing.

cchaplin said 270 days ago

How cold is it in Canada ?
Clark, thank you so much, I really value your imput on this. Much of what you say is spot on. The piano is an instrument I know well, and which I really struggled with in my youth - I wanted to become a concert pianist ! Finally realising my limitations, I gave up in total disgust - I still find it hard not to be slightly put off, or intimidated by it.

I also take on board your point about themes, and maybe trying to stick with them, and develop them a bit longer. I think I suffer from a slight fear that whenever I come up with something I like, I tend to not want to take it too far for fear of destroying it in the first place.

Gosh, maybe I should consider moving to Canada for a few years ! I could do with a few of your classes.

Thanks again for your gererous feedback.

chipan said 265 days ago

How on earth?
How do you get such realistic string sounds?

I enjoyed this piece, but I feel like I need to listen to it several more times before really absorbing it. The jazz hints are a nice touch. I felt like the ending was a little bit of a let down. Not that every piece needs to end on a bang or a traditional cadence, but it just seemed like it stopped before arriving where it was going. Just my opinion though- the piece overall is magnificent and I want to listen to more of your music as time permits. Really excellent writing.

peace,

chip

	dirigent said 258 days ago
	Piano quintet 3 What a brilliant composition. It flows so nicely and it is so rich with the varied harmonies and different playing-techniques and rhythmic variations, a true gem! Bravo!!

	cchaplin said 438 days ago
	Ibstrat Thank you kindly for such a nice comment. I mainly work by trial and error, and then by building on what I've kept from it, and so on, and so forth. So yes, there is an element of improvisation to start with but then it becomes more thought out. Once the piece is finished, I work out the score from the midi tracks.

	cchaplin said 438 days ago
	I'm glad you like it Yes, the instruments are samples from the very good East West Orchestral Gold Pro software.

	cchaplin said 432 days ago
	Thank you I am glad you took the time to listen to all three movements in turn, for that's really how it should be heard. I hope they form a whole together in the listeners ears, even though there isn't a definite fast-slow-fast structure to it. Thank you very much for stopping by.

	cchaplin said 431 days ago
	Thank you Musichead for visiting. I tried to get hints of different styles in this piece. I think the one that works the best is the section that goes into a sort of blues.

	cchaplin said 431 days ago
	Hello Feter You are right, this is the most melodic of the three, and probably the most accesible. My personal favourite is the second movement. Thanks for stopping by.

	cchaplin said 411 days ago
	Always nice to see you stop by Enrique.

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