Waxing lyrical
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	rjamadeus said 445 days ago
	yowza !! i catchy, gave me a very happy feeling in my very depths ! great mix and vocals were great but the song was just a little short for me, a really nice synth solo would be very nice in there rj

	apb said 445 days ago
	Thanks very much .. .. glad it made you feel that way .. I agree with you on the length - will be completed later .. a synth solo? Hmm .. not a bad idea ..I do need a bridge first .. I'd need to call in some assistance for a synth solo .. or I'll be forever with the pencil tool... lol.

	apb said 444 days ago
	Thanks Antonio .. .. glad you enjoyed it .. did you look up the words? It's interesting to try to achieve the same effect as with hearing a song in languages you don't understand .. but with your native tongue...

	apb said 445 days ago
	Doh! .. did I do it again Watson? I'll notch up the bass a bit when I'm re-visiting, promise :o) Thanks dude for the compliment..I enjoy trying vocal melodies for your songs .. s'good fun .. glad to be of help.

	apb said 444 days ago
	Thanks Feter ..it's just a little solid? rocking song at heart :o)

	apb said 445 days ago
	Thanks Walter .. .. sent you a note bud.

	apb said 445 days ago
	Thanks Jack .. .. "take it to the bridge!" .;o) .. yup .. it needs one .. I have a few other small ideas now for this... I decided to use that 'right-hand palmed artificial harmonic' thang again in this .. as it seemed to go down well in other posts: my own "take me down easy" and the multi-collab "release me" by Estella. Perhaps I'm starting to 'formula' write .. oh dear ..:o)

	apb said 445 days ago
	That's ... .. easy for you to say ;o) Thanks for stopping in Bill .. very genial of you ..lol.

apb said 445 days ago

Thanks SJ .. .. I have been refered to as puny and idiotmatic .. but that was by my x wife ;o) I hadn't heard of Peter Hammill and Van Der Graaf Generator before .. I'm giving some of the iTunes extracts a listen ..from their 2005 album "Present"... he now sounds a bit like our rschletty, don't you think? The older popular "theme one", "house with no door", "afterwards", "refugees" and "cat's eye" I like... the latter sounding a bit like "The Sweet". Which album would you recommend? "The Quiet Zone"?

said 444 days ago

. I'm partial to Still Life myself, although Godbluff is really good, too. For Peter Hammill's solo stuff, I highly recommend The Love Songs, if you can find it. IMHO the quality/energy of his songwriting degenerated markedly after 1990, so tread carefully (especially with recordings on his label, Fie!) Are you a Divine Comedy fan, by any chance? Neil Hannon owes a huge debt to Peter Hammill.......

apb said 444 days ago

Neil Hannon .. .. I do like some of his great successes: "Frog princess", "something for the weekend" .. but I would have to say I'm a fan for the song "If I were you (I'd be through with me)" .. how can anyone resist that after 3:55 .. the lyrics: "You see if I were you, I'd end my days, In a field of stupid sheep, Just grazing the grass, So succulent and sweet" ..and of course "My lovely horse" from the TV show "Father Ted" :o) I'll check out more Peter Hammill, ty for the info. Be cool.

	apb said 445 days ago
	er .. thanks! .. as did your reply :o) Glad you mentioned the effervescing .. the intro and outro was literally inspired by a couple of dissolving head-ache tablets...I think I will really record some and add that in along side in the mix (for later version)... might cheat with Andrews liver salts .. since it makes much more noise :o) Good to start bubbly and lively I find ..

apb said 445 days ago

Thanks Philip .. ..pfft .. your a far better mixer .. I got lucky ... and Ozone 3 really works for me .. or seems to do the trick on my 'base' mixes :o) This is just the preset "CD mastering with Exciter and widening". I don't pretend to have known those words before (of course).. it was the idea, to activatively seek them out .. and try writing them into the idea/concept of the song .. D'you know .. I once met some girls at a party in Oxford .. and they worked for a dictionary .. I went "ooh" and I asked them which one .. they said "the Oxford one" .. *doh* .. smooth huh? hahahah ...revenge .. mwahaha .. try making it so concise now!! ;o)

	apb said 444 days ago
	... ... see .. if I knew what I was doing .. would I have typed "activatively" instead of "actively"? lol

	apb said 444 days ago
	Thanks mcboy .. ..crack open a bottle of the '61. Cheers.

	apb said 445 days ago
	Thanks Ed .. .. at the time I originally came up with this song ..would be '96/'97 ..I was really trying to write 'catchy' songs for the band I was in... I think only the drummer liked this one... but now I have more tools/skills to 'present' it a bit better - so it's fun to re-do some of these past ideas.

	davisamerica said 445 days ago
	retrieve blown off socks whot a rocker...and agree with previous...more please!

	apb said 444 days ago
	Thanks very much .. ..appreciate it. I will work on bringing this to song length..rather than sketch length :o)

	apb said 442 days ago
	Merci mon ami .. see .. I can't do French either lol. Feel free to write your comments on my songs (or parts of) in French .. I don't mind .. I'm happy to try to use babelfish to figure it out .. or I have a couple of French friends here I can e-mail/or chat in the pub .. and ask them to translate for me. Thanks again.

apb said 442 days ago

Thanks Len .. glad you liked the opening line .. I too have a fondness for that phrase .. handy it rhymes with drumble too .. and far from obsolete yet I hope ;o) I do feel I'm learning and getting better with production .. was pleasantly surprised and relieved about the vocals .. since this was the last thing I recorded literally before I came down with a fever and sore-throat .. a little croaky. Still .. there is loads of better singers out there that could do a much better job of singing this I feel, I hope...lol.

	apb said 443 days ago
	Thanks bud .. .. seems being ambiguous and short .. helps your play count ;o) .. I can send you a note that might help elaborate the notions/meanings behind this piece, if you like? Ozone 3 is excellent sw/AU plug-in.. and very easy to use... great results very fast...works for me and I've hardly strayed far off the mastering presets really... I like the results.

	apb said 442 days ago
	Thanks Macca .. no qualms giving this one away ;o). Even though incomplete .. it's about best production quality I can currently achieve ..so no harm in that been downloaded. I might bring the vocal up just a little at the start with some automation points.

	apb said 443 days ago
	LOL .. ..well 10 mins of dictionary looking up .. and all I can say is: "glad you understand". I was worried it might be considered a pretentious act .. and people thought I had finally gone up my own R's .. neither of which is true. Hence, I felt the "ostentatiously trivial" line was worth keeping. Still can't find "gullible" in the dictionary .. lol ;o)

	Rebsie said 443 days ago
	Of course "gullible" is in the dictionary: gu'llible (a.) capable of or prone to being turned into a large flappy aquatic bird (n.) person who squawks and eats discarded chips off the pavement (from Old French 'goule' - throat)

apb said 441 days ago

Thanks very much Jason .. ..glad you enjoyed the idea and song .. "stuff" .. lol .. surprisingly, it wasn't just a dummy title .. it was in fact an intentional title .. and was about 'material things' .. but, I cannabalised that idea a bit ..and used some of the spirit or notions in my xmas post "remember december", so I had to think of something fresh and interesting to try for this tune lyric wise... no harm done .. it was really hard to sing "stuff" without creasing up with laughter and making everyone else giggle too. :o)

apb said 442 days ago

Thank you Thor thanks very much, firstly, your opinion and encouragement is greatly appreciated...and for responding to my post. In danger of labouring my point .. (and of course I don't want to dictate what people do.. it's a free place) and I am not of course hugely upset over this either ..lol - just thought I'd express my opinion .. seemed appropriate with this song, although I'm not acusing anyone of "waxing lyrical" either).. I won't argue your first 3 scores (very subjective).. but I would have gone lower on the final score, simply stating it was, like you mention, (only due to?) "not up to song length yet" (incomplete etc) for a song to be heard on the radio in this genre etc. No harm in that .. gives better possibility for 'headroom' .. and makes this post more relative to other peoples completed songs. That is an important aspect and crux of my point .. I sit in the camp of 'you shouldn't have to post completed works all the time just to get feedback or 'fit in' with the rating schemes). I've toyed with the idea of creating a pseudo account and bombing myself ..lol.. but then 'some' may think I use it to inflate my ratings later .. can't win lol. I think my conclusion is I'll just have to try to remember in future to disable ratings on works I feel are really 'unfinished' (I mean here clearly way too short .. sections missing), I'd be more comfortable with that and feel will have no significant effects on any 'exposure' aspect. No biggie. I didn't want my point on the thread to appear like a publicity stunt either .. there's always that danger too.

	apb said 441 days ago
	:o) .. thanks Ian, just having fun as usual. Us Scots have a natural ability to mess with the English language... been doing it for years.

apb said 442 days ago

LOL :o) ..thank you Gail .. your comment about 'waxing' really made me smile...wasn't expecting that ... glad you enjoyed it so far. PS. Perhaps you missed, I did make 'links' in the description to make it quicker to get the gist of the meaning of the obsolete words and the even the idiom "wax lyrical".... no painful cosmetic beauty treatments here, rest assured .. now you've got me thinking of a parody .. the "yeah" could be replaced with "Aoww-wah" :o)

	apb said 441 days ago
	Thanks Ed .. ..very kind of you. Btw .. I meant to tell you, between you and Fritz Doddy .. I got inspired to see what I looked like as a Simpson too: here ...quite uncanny... lol.

	apb said 439 days ago
	.. Cheers! Thanks for stopping in.

	apb said 439 days ago
	Thanks Leon .. .. really fine post you put up recently, if your reading this, and haven't already, I recommend you head over and check it out: Mistakes of man feat. Holistik & Kryptik

	apb said 439 days ago
	Thanks Einar .. and don't worry, rest assured everyone, native and non-native English speakers, are in the same boat with understanding this one. Was part of the fun ...listen to the music and let the lyrics just be icing on the cake .. this is often how I think I hear music in general.

	apb said 438 days ago
	.. thank you Calchas, too kind.

apb said 439 days ago

Thanks .. . it wasn't that hard. The idea came .. I searched for some 'obsolete English words' .. viola! .. then choosing the ones I liked while trying to remain within the general flavour of the song. I'm no expert in anything .. does one need to be? It's just an idea ...glad you liked it. Also glad you liked the 1st yeah's .. a bit of 'attitude' can add a little fun to the singing/delivery .. in fact all the 'yeah's placement are from the original lyrics/song conception .. I justified to myself keeping the harmonised 'yeah's as representing me/anyone 'waxing lyrical'.. And of course any "yeah"ing is a nice contrast to all the other often taken as or quite likely to be taken as 'pompous words'.... you can't beat a good 'yeah', yeah? ;o)

	apb said 425 days ago
	Tack så mycket ZOI :D:D:D:D:D;o)!!!

apb said 430 days ago

Thanks very much John .. .. too kind, I'm very flattered you acredit me so.. and thanks too for the heads-up on the vocal compression: it's probably in the recording stage itself (rather than mastering .. although I'll watch the maximiser more closely too) .. if I recall, I did use more comp than usual .. really due to the up close softer 'smouchy' verses .. and then having to 'hop up' and belt the 'yeahs' .. even with backing rapidly half a metre away from the mic, I needed to compress quite a bit to not peak...darn that Rode NT1-A .. it's too good .. and I'm far from used to its responsiveness... and I'm far from a 'true' vocalist in my mind still... it's a slog and a chore.

apb said 392 days ago

Thanks If your curious: The obsolete words used (which is just 7 I think) have definitions here: http://ozarque.livejournal.com/39453.html - there is a clickable link in the lid description. For other non-obsolete, a good free online dictionary I find is: http://www.yourdictionary.com, of course it would help if I could spell .. lol. "Brava-doh" was just "bravado" with a wee Homerism joke. BlatAnt means: bla·tant (blāt′'nt) adjective 1. disagreeably loud or boisterous; clamorous 2. glaringly conspicuous or obtrusive Don't worry about not understanding the lyrics at first listen, it was part of the idea - put the vast majority of English speakers in the same boat as non-native English speakers. Glad you enjoyed the tune.

	apb said 382 days ago
	Thanks Alan ..and have a good holiday. Look forward to more of your posts in the new year.