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 LunaTrick | September 08, 2008 12:53:02 PM Great thread - gives me a bit more confidence about the election! |
 chipan | September 09, 2008 10:32:29 AM I'm being completely honest and not sarcastic when I ask this... Can anyone tell me why you think Obama is more qualified to be president than McCain? I'm not asking about policy, I'm asking about as a leader. It worries me to think of Obama as president simply because he is young and doesn't have much experience. (It also worries me to think of Palin as President but she isn't running for that office). So could someone tell me what is it that they like about Obama as a leader and why you think he is qualified or more qualified to be president than McCain? Thanks. I look forward to reading the responses. chip |
 stratcat | September 09, 2008 10:42:58 AM Because he didn't vote with Bush 90% of the time. |
stratcat | September 09, 2008 10:48:10 AM If Palin/McCain get elected the middle class is finished. Go Obama |
 VicDiesel | September 09, 2008 10:55:59 AM Quote by: chipan I Can anyone tell me why you think Obama is more qualified to be president than McCain? I'm not asking about policy, I'm asking about as a leader. Not about policy? Everything is about policy. Like not invading countries that are not hurting you. Obama had detailed economic plans months ago when McCain couldn't do better than suggesting that government & banks should get together and talk about this lending crisis stuff. Obama has a better healthcare plan. Obama didn't sing "bomb bomb bom Iran" into a open microphone. How on earth can McCain be better "as a leader" if he's going to start another war, screw over the middle/lower class, do nothing about global warming, and have his pitbull tear up wildlife reserves? Victor. |
 Repulsive_Landlord | September 09, 2008 11:08:39 AM Quote by: VicDiesel Wow. Did he really say he's going to do that?How on earth can McCain be better "as a leader" if he's going to start another war, screw over the middle/lower class, do nothing about global warming, and have his pitbull tear up wildlife reserves? Victor. |
VicDiesel | September 09, 2008 11:14:56 AM Quote by: Repulsive_Landlord Quote by: VicDiesel Wow. Did he really say he's going to do that?How on earth can McCain be better "as a leader" if he's going to start another war, screw over the middle/lower class, do nothing about global warming, and have his pitbull tear up wildlife reserves? Victor. Not in so many words. But do you trust a guy who jokes about starting a war, especially after supporting one already; who has no clue about the economy and who favours more of the taxes that are affecting the middle/lower classes so badly; and who picks a completely anti-science running mate? Victor. |
 chikoppi | September 09, 2008 11:16:25 AM Quote by: chipan I think the Congress and Executive branch have been high-jacked by politicians who view themselves as a corporate board of directors. They manage government, regulate markets, and enact foreign policy with "corporate growth" as the dominant concern. For some time now the welfare of the "corporate citizen" (how I loathe that term) has overshadowed the interests and even the rights of the individual citizen. Both parties are guilty in this regard - though the Republican congress under Bush was absolutely shameless.So could someone tell me what is it that they like about Obama as a leader and why you think he is qualified or more qualified to be president than McCain? McCain is a child of privilege. Yes, he has suffered for his country and has shown strong personal character, but that doesn't change his experience as a citizen. His political career, from admission to the Naval College straight through to gaining his seat in the Senate, was due to his connections to the powerful and influential. In contrast, Obama's political career is founded on his experience as a community organizer. His rise depended on his ability to engage disenfranchised citizens, involve them in the political process, and successfully fight against powerful and entrenched corporate and political interests. I believe both candidates are good men, but also I believe Obama will more aggressively fight for the rights and interests of citizens. I believe he is more likely to put the common citizen ahead of the powerful, wealthy, and influential and I believe the policies he has articulated so far support that assessment. In other words, I believe Obama is more likely to use the prosperity of the common citizen as the motivation and measurement of his Presidential agenda. |
Repulsive_Landlord | September 09, 2008 11:20:27 AM Quote by: VicDiesel It does make for a tough scenario. I guess I need it spelled out better, I am remiss in not doing the research that I need to do.Quote by: Repulsive_Landlord Quote by: VicDiesel Wow. Did he really say he's going to do that?How on earth can McCain be better "as a leader" if he's going to start another war, screw over the middle/lower class, do nothing about global warming, and have his pitbull tear up wildlife reserves? Victor. Not in so many words. But do you trust a guy who jokes about starting a war, especially after supporting one already; who has no clue about the economy and who favours more of the taxes that are affecting the middle/lower classes so badly; and who picks a completely anti-science running mate? Victor. |
 Jim Bouchard | September 09, 2008 11:24:48 AM Quote by: chipan Can anyone tell me why you think Obama is more qualified to be president than McCain? I'm not asking about policy, I'm asking about as a leader. It worries me to think of Obama as president simply because he is young and doesn't have much experience. (It also worries me to think of Palin as President but she isn't running for that office). So could someone tell me what is it that they like about Obama as a leader and why you think he is qualified or more qualified to be president than McCain? Thanks. I look forward to reading the responses. chip To me, Obama is very well spoken, and he communicates well. He is personable and engaging, and he has a magnetic personality and a reassuring manner that inspires confidence. Those are qualities we look for in a leader. He is older than JFK was when he was elected president, as much experience in elected office as Bill Clinton had when he was elected, and more than George W. Bush had. He has a youthful vigor that McCain doesn't have and I have more confidence that Obama could relate better with other world leaders in working together to bring peace to the world. He has shown better judgement in his choice of a running mate, going for experience over political pandering for votes. These are just a couple of my observations. McCain has shown a lot of tenacity in his political career and has served his country well, you have to give him that. |
Repulsive_Landlord | September 09, 2008 11:40:03 AM Quote by: chikoppi I think the Congress and Executive branch have been high-jacked by politicians who view themselves as a corporate board of directors. They manage government, regulate markets, and enact foreign policy with "corporate growth" as the dominant concern. For some time now the welfare of the "corporate citizen" (how I loathe that term) has overshadowed the interests and even the rights of the individual citizen. Both parties are guilty in this regard - though the Republican congress under Bush was absolutely shameless. McCain is a child of privilege. Yes, he has suffered for his country and has shown strong personal character, but that doesn't change his experience as a citizen. His political career, from admission to the Naval College straight through to gaining his seat in the Senate, was due to his connections to the powerful and influential. In contrast, Obama's political career is founded on his experience as a community organizer. His rise depended on his ability to engage disenfranchised citizens, involve them in the political process, and successfully fight against powerful and entrenched corporate and political interests. I believe both candidates are good men, but also I believe Obama will more aggressively fight for the rights and interests of citizens. I believe he is more likely to put the common citizen ahead of the powerful, wealthy, and influential and I believe the policies he has articulated so far support that assessment. In other words, I believe Obama is more likely to use the prosperity of the common citizen as the motivation and measurement of his Presidential agenda. Quote by: Jim Bouchard These are positive and fairly objective balanced views. This type of rhetoric will win more hearts than will emotional slander, any day.To me, Obama is very well spoken, and he communicates well. He is personable and engaging, and he has a magnetic personality and a reassuring manner that inspires confidence. Those are qualities we look for in a leader. He is older than JFK was when he was elected president, as much experience in elected office as Bill Clinton had when he was elected, and more than George W. Bush had. He has a youthful vigor that McCain doesn't have and I have more confidence that Obama could relate better with other world leaders in working together to bring peace to the world. He has shown better judgement in his choice of a running mate, going for experience over political pandering for votes. These are just a couple of my observations. McCain has shown a lot of tenacity in his political career and has served his country well, you have to give him that. |
chipan | September 09, 2008 7:25:42 PM Quote by: Repulsive_Landlord Quote by: chikoppi I think the Congress and Executive branch have been high-jacked by politicians who view themselves as a corporate board of directors. They manage government, regulate markets, and enact foreign policy with "corporate growth" as the dominant concern. For some time now the welfare of the "corporate citizen" (how I loathe that term) has overshadowed the interests and even the rights of the individual citizen. Both parties are guilty in this regard - though the Republican congress under Bush was absolutely shameless. McCain is a child of privilege. Yes, he has suffered for his country and has shown strong personal character, but that doesn't change his experience as a citizen. His political career, from admission to the Naval College straight through to gaining his seat in the Senate, was due to his connections to the powerful and influential. In contrast, Obama's political career is founded on his experience as a community organizer. His rise depended on his ability to engage disenfranchised citizens, involve them in the political process, and successfully fight against powerful and entrenched corporate and political interests. I believe both candidates are good men, but also I believe Obama will more aggressively fight for the rights and interests of citizens. I believe he is more likely to put the common citizen ahead of the powerful, wealthy, and influential and I believe the policies he has articulated so far support that assessment. In other words, I believe Obama is more likely to use the prosperity of the common citizen as the motivation and measurement of his Presidential agenda. Quote by: Jim Bouchard These are positive and fairly objective balanced views. This type of rhetoric will win more hearts than will emotional slander, any day.To me, Obama is very well spoken, and he communicates well. He is personable and engaging, and he has a magnetic personality and a reassuring manner that inspires confidence. Those are qualities we look for in a leader. He is older than JFK was when he was elected president, as much experience in elected office as Bill Clinton had when he was elected, and more than George W. Bush had. He has a youthful vigor that McCain doesn't have and I have more confidence that Obama could relate better with other world leaders in working together to bring peace to the world. He has shown better judgement in his choice of a running mate, going for experience over political pandering for votes. These are just a couple of my observations. McCain has shown a lot of tenacity in his political career and has served his country well, you have to give him that. I agree. Thanks for answering the question I asked. |
 Elevator_Funk | September 10, 2008 1:04:08 AM |
 michael2 | September 10, 2008 1:10:00 AM was listening to NPR and they compared Palins mayoral experience to "heading up a homeowners association." classic, I was laughing so hard I almost spilled my coffee. |
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